From: Ken and Louise Landis
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 1:41 PM
To: grsalvo@pacbell.net
Subject: Propane Conversion

We recently joined your organization and look forward to cruising with other Islander 36 owners this summer. During the rainy season I am doing some upgrades to our 1974 Islander and am looking for information on the following:

I recently installed a LPG range and am wondering where other Islander owners have placed their propane cylinders? Secondly, I have one of the few Islanders that came with a tiller. I am interested in coverting to a wheel and wonder if anyone has had experience with this, and possibly information on where I can pick up a used pedestal?

My email address is webehvnfun@attbi.com

Thanks, Ken Landis

From: Noble Brown [mailto:berneb@jps.net]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 10:19 PM
To: Gary R. Salvo
Cc: Islander36
Subject: Re: Propane Conversion

I have a 1974 Islander 36 which I have converted to propane. Seaward makes complete propane locker systems which includes the tank, solenoid, regulator and a sealed enclosure. This can be located in one of the lazerettes and then simply vented to the outside. I used the Seaward #93268-P with a 4# tank (sold through West Marine) which I placed in the starboard stern lazerette. This was the perfect place as my boat has wheel steering and this lazerette is of little use because of the steering bracing. I was concerned about the size but I filled the tank last summer and have not had to refill it yet.

I special ordered a Seaward #93271 with an 8# tank but did not want to give up space in the main starboard lazerette. If anyone is interested in this larger enclosure contact me.

Noble Brown

Islander 36, "Mai Pen Rai"

Gary, Ken & Louise, and everyone else:

Greetings from Northern Michigan. We're looking forward to our season as the days get longer. This weekend we're having a hard water regatta -- that's ice sailing and if you haven't sailed on ice, you haven't really sailed!!! Check out the Grand Traverse Ice Yacht Club (GTIYC) site in the GTYC website: www.gtyc.org

To the subject at hand. We have compressed natural gas (CNG) on our '79 I-36, Ginni's Tonic. The cylinder is secured by a strap in the strbrd. lazerette. It works very well and seems to last forever. Availability gets better every year, although we haven't had to fill a bottle for a number of years. The big difference is that CNG is lighter than air where propane is heavier. The theory is that CNG will dissipate rather than collect in low areas.

On another subject, has anyone had any luck w/ 12V carbon-monoxide (CO) detectors??? We tried one a few years ago and it went off all the time even when a 110V digital next to it read 00.0. I am concerned about people sleeping below while motoring or motor-sailing. Any input will be appreciated.

Keep the lead side down!!! -- Eric Lind

From Julia & Kevin

Hustler, my '77 I36 came with a 6# LPG tank in the port lazerette plumbed from the LPG stove on the starboard side of the galley. The plumbing is standard propane flex hose and runs behind the stove and along the starboard side, attached under the deck, across the stern and into the lazerette.

It appears that the hose was run from the lazerette to the stove due to the LPG fitting since the hole in the lazerette is not large enough to accommodate the LPG fitting (for the tank). The 6# tank is the short, squat version.

There is also a propane sensor on - off switch located in the galley which has to be turned on prior to using the propane. The switch lights up "red" when the propane feed is turned on (via the switch). Although you have to wait for air to blow out of the lines each time, it is safer to shut the tank valve after each use and reopen when you want to cook.

Note: the tank was original and I recently replaced it due to rust on the bottom ring. I purchased Hustler and lived and cooked aboard her daily for 10 months plus numerous overnights after that. I never had to fill the tank so the 6# of propane lasts quite a while.

Kevin & Julia Novak

Boulder City, NV

newmoon@lvcm,com

Here is Ron Damsen's solution aboard Woodbine. Note the "T" valve after the main valve that is used to connect a gas line to the rail-mounted grill shown in the thrid picture.

The bracket on the stern pulpit.	The tank, with cover made by Karen, sits on the bracket and is held by two schock cords.
From this side you can see where the line goes inside the hull and the proximity to the grill.

Ron's email address is ronanld@msn.com